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-By Caleb Jones
Ben Shapiro recently said something very accurate on a recent Joe Rogan podcast:
I’m going to present two of many examples I could give of one of the core reasons why America is destined to collapse. To be fair, I will use both a left-wing and right-wing example, since both sides are guilty of this.
Item One
During the Obama years, several organizations (including Howard Stern) went out and interviewed Obama supporters, but lied to them and told them Obama held views opposite to what he actually had. These reporters would tell the Obama supporters things like, “Obama wants all the troops to stay in Iraq. Do you agree with this?” or “Obama is pro-life and is against abortion. Do you agree with this?” And so on. Tons of them actually agreed with Obama’s fake right-wing views. There are still videos about this on YouTube if you don't mind searching around.
Obama worshipers supported Obama no matter what they thought his views were. Indeed, Obama was, amazingly, re-elected in 2012 when the economy sucked and when black unemployment was near an all-time historic high.
They loved Obama, not his views.
Item Two
Trump supporters really dislike me and/or thoroughly dislike my views, even though I disagree with the left on just about everything and support at least 80% of the alt-right’s political platform.
On the other hand, Trump supporters absolutely worship Scott Adams, an extreme, big-government, left-wing liberal, an atheist, a guy who never votes, and a guy who actually shut down all commenting functions on his blog for several months because he didn’t like the alt-right posters there talking about race.
Doesn’t make any sense, does it? Well, the reason why is simple. Insane, but simple.
I like a lot of what Trump has done, but I also call Trump out when he does the opposite of what he promised and when he does shitty things. Scott Adams, on the other hand, defends Trump almost 100% of the time, no matter what he does or what happens in his administration. (“Bombing Syria is good persuasion!” “It doesn’t matter why Comey got fired!” “He hired Scaramucci! What a great move!” Ten days later: “He fired Scaramucci! What a great move!”)
So there you go. The Trump supporters and alt-right love Adams and is at least mildly irritated with me, even though I agree with far more of their policies and political opinions than Adams does or ever will.
What does this all mean?
It means that we have entered into an era where people care more about the groups or individuals involved than the actual policies they support. This is literal insanity. This has been called identity politics, which is politics based on race, religion, or social background rather than ideology or party-based politics. However, it’s worse than that. I think that identity politics was “phase one” and we have now moved to “phase two” where it would be more accurate to call it "personality politics."
In other words, this guy is my guy. I don’t care what he does, nor do I care what laws he passes or what actions he takes. I just support this guy because he’s my guy and I like him. He could literally do the opposite of what my political views are (and does!) and I will still support him because he’s my guy.
Does that sound like sane behavior, or insane behavior? Seriously.
Of course, if this guy is the same race, religion, and/or social background as you, your insane personality politics are also backed up by identity politics as well. “Obama is black so I support him!” or “Trump is a white man who doesn’t like Muslims so I support him!”
Do you understand why, if both major political ideologies in the US (and in the Western world) are voting for and supporting people just because of who they are and not because of what they do, that the West is guaranteed to collapse?
Do you understand if a president is attacked, and the first defense his supporters give is that the other candidate would have been worse, why this is a bad thing for the future?
If corporatist elites like Bush, Obama, Trump, and the next president know that they can do literally whatever they want and their base will keep supporting them and they’ll likely get re-elected, do you understand why the entire system will never be fixed and why it’s more or less doomed?
Are you getting this yet?
Or do you want to get angry at me and defend Bush/Obama/Trump because he’s your guy and you’ll defend him no matter what he does?
I know there are more of you in the second category than in the first.
That’s exactly why your civilization is slowly collapsing all around you.
Note/Update: Just one week after I posted this article, a poll done by Monmouth University researchers reported that 61% of Trump supporters will literally never stop supporting Trump no matter what he does.
America is done, folks.
You say the level of hatred leveled against Trump is warping Trump, but it’s also warping people on my side, who are so interested in THE FIGHT that they’re less interested in advancing the polices I’d like to see achieved. Let say Trump resigned tomorrow. He said, “That’s it, I’ve had it, I’m out.” Mike Pence becomes president and proceeds to do all the things that conservatives want. Tax reform, limit immigration, all of those things. But, he doesn’t Tweet, especially about things like Mika Brzezinski’s face. There would actually be a whole group of people on the right who would be pissed. What they want is someone who pisses off the left more than someone who actually beats the left. There’s a lot of people who’ve fallen into the trap of thinking these are both the same thing. That pissing off the left means you’re winning. NO!
I’m going to present two of many examples I could give of one of the core reasons why America is destined to collapse. To be fair, I will use both a left-wing and right-wing example, since both sides are guilty of this.
Item One
During the Obama years, several organizations (including Howard Stern) went out and interviewed Obama supporters, but lied to them and told them Obama held views opposite to what he actually had. These reporters would tell the Obama supporters things like, “Obama wants all the troops to stay in Iraq. Do you agree with this?” or “Obama is pro-life and is against abortion. Do you agree with this?” And so on. Tons of them actually agreed with Obama’s fake right-wing views. There are still videos about this on YouTube if you don't mind searching around.
Obama worshipers supported Obama no matter what they thought his views were. Indeed, Obama was, amazingly, re-elected in 2012 when the economy sucked and when black unemployment was near an all-time historic high.
They loved Obama, not his views.
Item Two
Trump supporters really dislike me and/or thoroughly dislike my views, even though I disagree with the left on just about everything and support at least 80% of the alt-right’s political platform.
On the other hand, Trump supporters absolutely worship Scott Adams, an extreme, big-government, left-wing liberal, an atheist, a guy who never votes, and a guy who actually shut down all commenting functions on his blog for several months because he didn’t like the alt-right posters there talking about race.
Doesn’t make any sense, does it? Well, the reason why is simple. Insane, but simple.
I like a lot of what Trump has done, but I also call Trump out when he does the opposite of what he promised and when he does shitty things. Scott Adams, on the other hand, defends Trump almost 100% of the time, no matter what he does or what happens in his administration. (“Bombing Syria is good persuasion!” “It doesn’t matter why Comey got fired!” “He hired Scaramucci! What a great move!” Ten days later: “He fired Scaramucci! What a great move!”)
So there you go. The Trump supporters and alt-right love Adams and is at least mildly irritated with me, even though I agree with far more of their policies and political opinions than Adams does or ever will.
What does this all mean?
It means that we have entered into an era where people care more about the groups or individuals involved than the actual policies they support. This is literal insanity. This has been called identity politics, which is politics based on race, religion, or social background rather than ideology or party-based politics. However, it’s worse than that. I think that identity politics was “phase one” and we have now moved to “phase two” where it would be more accurate to call it "personality politics."
In other words, this guy is my guy. I don’t care what he does, nor do I care what laws he passes or what actions he takes. I just support this guy because he’s my guy and I like him. He could literally do the opposite of what my political views are (and does!) and I will still support him because he’s my guy.
Does that sound like sane behavior, or insane behavior? Seriously.
Of course, if this guy is the same race, religion, and/or social background as you, your insane personality politics are also backed up by identity politics as well. “Obama is black so I support him!” or “Trump is a white man who doesn’t like Muslims so I support him!”
Do you understand why, if both major political ideologies in the US (and in the Western world) are voting for and supporting people just because of who they are and not because of what they do, that the West is guaranteed to collapse?
Do you understand if a president is attacked, and the first defense his supporters give is that the other candidate would have been worse, why this is a bad thing for the future?
If corporatist elites like Bush, Obama, Trump, and the next president know that they can do literally whatever they want and their base will keep supporting them and they’ll likely get re-elected, do you understand why the entire system will never be fixed and why it’s more or less doomed?
Are you getting this yet?
Or do you want to get angry at me and defend Bush/Obama/Trump because he’s your guy and you’ll defend him no matter what he does?
I know there are more of you in the second category than in the first.
That’s exactly why your civilization is slowly collapsing all around you.
Note/Update: Just one week after I posted this article, a poll done by Monmouth University researchers reported that 61% of Trump supporters will literally never stop supporting Trump no matter what he does.
America is done, folks.
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