10 Jun Age 35+ And Still Don’t Know What You Want? You’re In Big Trouble

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What I’m about to describe has always been a problem with men in my experience of talking to thousands of them over the past almost 20 years about their dating and relationship lives.
But for some reason, not only has this problem not improved, but I see it getting worse.
The problem is this:
Too many men between the ages of 30 and 45 still have no idea what they want in terms of their long-term woman lives.
I will talk to men between the ages of 30 and 45 and ask them questions like:
Do you ever want to get married (OLTR version of course)?
Do you want kids?
If you want kids, how many? When do you want them?
Do you want to settle down, or not?
Do you want a long-term girlfriend or wife? Or not?
If you do, what would that relationship ideally look like for you?
And way too often, I just get a blank stare as an answer. Or a nervous hesitation. Or a wistful look up at the ceiling.
Or an answer like, “Uhhh… well….uhhh….”
Or just, “I’m really not sure.”
If you’re in your twenties and you don’t know what you want for your future in terms of your relationship life, that’s fine. Frankly, a lot of guys in their twenties have the opposite problem; they want a girlfriend or wife when they shouldn’t have anything like that yet.
If you’re in your early thirties and you still don’t know, that’s okay, but you should at least start thinking about it.
But holy shit, if you’re over the age of 35, and certainly if you’re in your forties already, and you still have no damn idea what you want in terms of your long-term future concerning relationships with women, kids, settling down, and so on, this is a very serious problem.
If you never want to move in with a woman and/or never want kids, that’s fine, but you should know.
If you want to get an OLTR at some point, that’s fine, but you should know.
Not only if you want these things, but also a good idea of when you want these things.
If you are over 35 and don’t solidly know what you want for your future in these areas, here’s what’s going to happen:
1. You’re going to spend the next 10-20+ years of your life floundering around with a bunch of half-assed relationships that don’t work. Having that problem in your twenties or thirties is one thing, but do you really want to fucking around with that garbage in your forties, fifties and sixties?
2. You’re going to start feeling like there’s something wrong with you (and you’re partially right!)
3. Worst case, you’re going to either get a woman pregnant by accident and just go along with a situation you didn’t plan (nightmare) or you’ll eventually succumb to oneitis and just marry/settle down/get monogamous/some other stupid shit just because some woman you’re dating stamps her little foot and makes demands (nightmare, and divorce/breakup city).
I’ve seen these things happen over and over again with middle-aged/older guys, and it almost always traces back to the fact that they don’t know what the hell they want.
After my divorce, way back when I was 35, I knew exactly what I wanted for my long-term future with women.
I told myself that eventually I wanted to settle down with a new woman in a non-monogamous marriage-type relationship with many FBs on the side (I didn’t have the term OLTR back then but I still knew it’s what I wanted), that I didn’t want any more kids (because I already had two), but that there was no rush for me to settle down again and that I should wait at least 10-15 years before doing so, and in that 10-15 year interim period I should go have sex with a bunch of hot FBs and MLTRs and enjoy myself.
And that’s precisely what I ended up doing. Because I knew what I wanted.
If you are over the age of 35 and you still don’t know if you want to settle down or not, if you want kids or not, what your ideal perfect long-term relationship with a woman would look like, then for fuck’s sake, you need to figure this out.
Throwing your arms in the air and saying, “But Caleb, I HAVE thought about it and I just don’t know!” isn’t going to cut it. Not for an older man like you. (Younger guys are allowed to not know what they want; you don’t have that luxury.)
Sit down with a notepad or blank document and just think it through. What do you want? What do you not want? What do you THINK would make you happy in your fifties and beyond? What do YOU want (not what your mom or girlfriend wants)? And so on.
Just write things down and brainstorm. Then do it again a few days/weeks later. Then do it again.
Figure this out.
You’re playing with fire if you don’t.
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Extreme Loser
Posted at 11:18 am, 10th June 2025Man, I was waiting in the therapist’s office, and there was this 1/10 girl sitting across from me, and we shared a few words. We were talking about how being in a paradise climate helps, but she said “not really”. I sensed a real soul in there! I hope I see her again, this could finally be “it” for me. Her face was messed up, like to a hilarious degree, but I’d say she was “cute” to me. 1/10 is about where I place myself too! (It sucks tho because I’ll probably never see her again….)
shane
Posted at 01:02 pm, 10th June 2025Some pushback from a higher value 50 yr old, with too much experience with women.
Every relationship that “ends” is a failed one. By the same logic, if you die or she dies, it ends and that’s failing.
I didn’t know what the fuk I wanted for a long time- and who cares? I also changed careers, business ownership- changed everything. The west (j*ws) has messed all men up. Really we should be monogamous and married with kids by 20 tops. Or after we get a degree, 23 tops.
That’s the way it should be, not this decades of dogging around, then to be poly and not be attached (feelings) is super broken- and if/when she eventually leaves, call up some ho’s in 5 mins get your dick suked so you can feel better about life. That’s close to sociopath behavior- great for CEO’s, surgeons, lawyers, politicians but probably and thankfully unrealistic for guys that want any kind of normal.
The poly thing is fucked, even if you get the unicorn, (lt gf, side piece i had) you will want the side piece to be monogamous to you- fucking with someone you like and have some feelings for- 1000x better.
A meat hole with a condom that you don’t care about- better to get tugged at massage parlor, if you need it that bad. Women, single and young bang like crazy- they can rack up 14 bodies in 2 weeks after a breakup, no sweat. I know of many- wouldn’t touch with a 10 ft. pole. After my last side piece with my main piece- i am relieved, i a have so much more time and am not always in the back seat a couple times a week- looking back and when i was in it- total ego. Now it’s about sustained development for me, and that after a decade of fuckery, feels good and i am starting to like and try to love myself. Enjoy falling or stepping in love, getting fucking crushed, and do it again (get good at pullout game) just keep yourself looking and feeling high value, everything else will fall into place.
Caleb Jones
Posted at 06:27 pm, 11th June 2025@Shane – Literally nothing in your comment is responding to anything I said or anything I believe. It’s almost like you didn’t even read the article.
Harrold
Posted at 11:51 pm, 11th June 2025If you are over 25 and don’t know if you want a relationship, then you don’t want one. That seems pretty obvious. If you were hungry you’d get food. You wouldn’t whine line a puss that you don’t know.
AlphaOmega
Posted at 03:58 am, 12th June 2025“If you are over 25 and don’t know if you want a relationship, then you don’t want one. That seems pretty obvious. If you were hungry you’d get food. You wouldn’t whine line a puss that you don’t know.”
Yeah this is spot on. Most people only want relationship because they think its what they should want, not because they actually want it. Since they dont know why. They want to date or have sex but they don’t think they can have it or should not have it without relationship, yet they are unable to explain why, other than because thats what others in their circles do.
This is the same with jobs and many other things.
Caleb Jones
Posted at 03:52 pm, 12th June 2025Usually yes.
The problem is that if you don’t want one but say “you don’t know” then you’ll end up in a dysfunctional one when some Girl Who Is Not Like The Rest™ pressures you into it.
Joseph
Posted at 05:48 am, 16th June 2025I think it’s important to know what I want, because I need a direction to work in.