What To Do When YOU Are The Source of the Drama

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Statistically speaking, in most relationship scenarios, it is the woman who initiates drama. As I’ve said hundreds of times over the past 16 years, that doesn’t mean women are bitches, children, disloyal, or evil. It means that women are (generally speaking) more emotional than men, more picky than men, more reactive than men, more complicated than men, have a stronger sense of entitlement than men due to Societal Programming, and have more thoughts going on inside their heads than men.

Add all of this shit up, and that means that usually it’s the woman in the relationship who starts the drama or conflict by yelling, complaining, questioning, or demanding, even when the man is just minding his own business.

However, as Western civilization continues to collapse and as more Western men become stupider, lower T, more depressed, mentally ill, drug addicted, feminized, and emotionally reactive (I showed the statistics for all of these things here) we’re now seeing more men being the ones who start drama in their relationships.

Drama started by men takes a different form than drama started by women, thus my term guy-drama, as defined in my glossary thusly:

Guy-Drama – A particular form of drama directed from a man to a woman. Unlike drama, which is feminine and takes many forms, guy-drama takes the form of a lecture issued in order to correct behavior. “Setting her straight”, “straightening her out”, “laying down the law”, commands to “respect” him, or issuing “rules” are all forms of guy-drama. Guy-drama is extremely ineffective at managing a relationship. It simply creates more drama, or at best, simply delays (instead of preventing) future drama.

As you can probably tell, guy-drama is an Alpha Male 1.0 behavior, though beta males can certainly engage in it as well, and often do.

It’s usually the standard scenario you’ve seen or experienced a thousand times:

1. Woman does something man doesn’t like.

2. Man gets upset.

3. Man angrily tells woman to never do that again! You are to do THIS instead!

4. Woman, being a modern-day Western woman, tells man that he can’t tell her what to do, she can do whatever she wants, and that he isn’t her fucking boss.

5. Man reacts with even more anger.

6. Big argument.

That’s the problem with guy-drama. It just creates more drama.

As I’ve explained many times, in a post-Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson, Donald Trump world, lots of men are under the mistaken impression that if they just act tough and lay down the law with women, this modern-day Western woman will just bow like a servant before his Alpha Male 1.0 confidence and big, swinging red pill balls and say, “Yes, Alpha Male Master, thank you for correcting me. I promise I’ll never do that again.”

When in fact, the opposite occurs. She tells him to fuck off and that she can do whatever she wants because her mom/sister/best friend/Taylor Swift/Michelle Obama said so.

Then, of course, the already upset man gets really upset and now you have a bunch of drama.

Great job!

As I’ve said, if you don’t care about long-term happiness in your life, then feel free to do whatever you want. Be as reactive as your false Societal Programming and Obsolete Biological Wiring direct you.

But if you want to be long-term happy, you have to learn to do two things:

A. Be less reactive about the shit women in your life do.

and

B. Engage in some adult emotional control when you do feel reactive.

The first part is about being less reactive. That’s done by doing these things:

1. Building your outcome independence.

2. Always having sex with other women besides her, ideally women younger and/or hotter than her.

3. Avoiding oneitis.

4. Getting plenty of sleep (7-9 hours a night, every night, no excuses).

5. Avoiding drugs (including prescription drugs!) and alcohol.

6. Managing stress, especially by exercising hard and meditating regularly.

7. Monitoring your hormone levels (testosterone, estradiol, thyroid T3, and vitamin D) and immediately correcting them if they get too low or high. (Note: Some guys think that low-T men are less reactive and high-T men are more reactive. Incorrect. Low-T men are more feminine and emotionally touchy, therefore low-T men are actually more reactive than men with healthy T levels. It’s true that men with way too much T are also too reactive, but that’s why I say your total T should never be more than 1200.)

8. Getting plenty of water.

9. Focusing on important macro shit like your Mission instead of the minutia of what your girl is doing.

I already do all nine of these things which is why when a woman in my life does something I don’t like, I not only don’t react, but I barely even notice. Whereas most men throw a little tantrum.

The second piece to this is if and when you feel reactive when a woman you’re with does something you don’t like, you are aware of your feelings and are proactive to take steps to chill the fuck out instead of acting like a six-year-old.

I don’t get reactive or angry like most men but I have talked about how back in 2007 when I started dating lots of very attractive women, on first dates as soon as I saw these hot babes I could feel my mind and body getting very excited, nervous, horny, and needy.

Knowing that acting on those feelings would murder my chances of a successful first date, here’s what I did.

1. I was AWARE of these feelings. Instead of just acting on autopilot, I could look at myself from the outside and know that I was experiencing these things. “Uh oh, here it comes, she’s super hot, so now I’m feeling super excited again.”

2. I PAUSED for a second or two as soon as I realized I was feeling this way.

3. I mentally INSTRUCTED myself to calm down. “Take a deep breath, Caleb. Calm. Chill. Relax. Breathe.”

4. I reminded myself WHY I wanted to calm down. “If you look horny/excited/needy with this chick, you’re going to never see her again. But if you look calm, relaxed, and outcome independent, in about three or four days you’ll be banging her on your couch while she’s screaming your name. So chill the fuck out.”

It worked. A lot.

You need to follow this four-step process when a woman you’re with does something you don’t like instead of doing your stupid guy-drama which will fuck everything up.

The problem is that many of you reading this are indeed suffering from things like drug use, outcome dependence, low T, lack of sleep, too much stress, and all that other shit, so address those first. Your happiness will thank you.

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6 Comments
  • Jack Outside the Box
    Posted at 06:47 am, 12th January 2025

    So, I know that you have your “history with women” series, but I’m curious: Do you have any examples from your distant past when you were an outcome dependent and/or needy beta (not necessarily with women, but with other men or life in general)? And are there any examples of you coming to grieve because of these stupid emotional reactions? Like, you lost a job because of it, or something? Or were you always a drama hater?

    I remember that one time when you acted like a crazy person when your house was robbed, and your then wife and kids were scared by you, but how about in your childhood, teenage years, or early adulthood when you were a self described beta? I’m especially interested in the negative consequences that you suffered because of this, and you learning your lessons in stoicism. As you know, evolving to this level is not easy, so I’m just curious about your past internal struggles.

  • Jack Outside the Box
    Posted at 07:27 am, 12th January 2025

    Also Caleb, what do you say to people saying, “I’m only human. Of course, certain things are going to traumatize me or make me angry.” Do you see the value in having a support network of friends and family? Or do you think that anyone who needs friends or family for emotional support, or to calm down, is a needy pussy?

    The question “what are friends for?” comes to mind. Do you think they’re only for enjoying good times, or do you concede that they may be a source of immense strength when times are emotionally tough? Would you lean on a serious girlfriend or wife during tough times, or is that needy/beta/pathetic in your eyes?

  • Harrold
    Posted at 02:59 pm, 15th January 2025

    You don’t really say what to do, except calm yourself. That’s good advice — a man should never lose his temper. But what then??? I suppose you can correct her as long as it’s d0ne calmly. I do.

    I listen to her rant without commenting. When she’s done I say, okay I listened to you now it’s my turn. Then I explain how I didn’t like what she said or did. Usually she’s telling me what to do. I tell her even if she was my wife, I make all the decisions for my life. But I appreciate her advice, as long as it’s done respectfully. I never get an argument after this, and it’s a long time before we have to repeat the process.

  • Daniel
    Posted at 05:17 pm, 15th January 2025

    My experience of creating guy drama was never about telling women what to do. It was always about trying to impose guy logic on a woman’s chicky brain when she was trying to present information that wasn’t logical nor rational. Once again this stems from the bs narrative that men and women are the same except for their private parts. With that belief system when a woman is thinking “incorrectly”, from the guys perspective, he’s compelled to “correct” her with his guy logic (Big no no!) All this does is create a debate which the guy gets swept up in because he enjoys a good debate, especially when he knows he’s “right” (Even bigger no no!) and alas you have guy drama that HE in fact created. It took me years to identify this as a problem and get a handle on it. I cringe at the thought of how I foolishly went down the rabbit hole of debate with women and I started it. Nowadays when they say something I hear as dumb, illogical, or irrational I’m like “ok cool.. what are you making for lunch?” or something to that effect and change the subject. No drama at all. Way better this way for sure.

  • Caleb Jones
    Posted at 04:29 am, 16th January 2025

    You don’t really say what to do, except calm yourself.

    Correct because that’s 90% of the battle.

    That’s good advice — a man should never lose his temper. But what then??? I suppose you can correct her as long as it’s d0ne calmly. I do.

    No. The Alpha Male 2.0 never corrects a woman UNLESS she is angrily accusing him of something he literally didn’t do, but that scenario is very rare.

    Instead he just says something like, “Okay, great. Here’s what I’m going to do…”

    I listen to her rant without commenting. When she’s done I say, okay I listened to you now it’s my turn. Then I explain how I didn’t like what she said or did. Usually she’s telling me what to do. I tell her even if she was my wife, I make all the decisions for my life. But I appreciate her advice, as long as it’s done respectfully. I never get an argument after this, and it’s a long time before we have to repeat the process.

    That sounds okay, here’s an improvement: the best framing is, “You can do whatever you want, but I have to make a judgement call on who I spend my time with. If you really want to keep doing X, that’s fine, but won’t see me very much because I don’t like spending time with people who do X.”

    This is way better than “Stop doing X” or “I don’t like X.”

  • Caleb Jones
    Posted at 04:32 am, 16th January 2025

    My experience of creating guy drama was never about telling women what to do. It was always about trying to impose guy logic on a woman’s chicky brain when she was trying to present information that wasn’t logical nor rational.

    Yes, that’s is also really common – as I’ve said many times, using logic on an angry woman is probably the dumbest thing men do.

    Nowadays when they say something I hear as dumb, illogical, or irrational I’m like “ok cool.. what are you making for lunch?” or something to that effect and change the subject. No drama at all. Way better this way for sure.

    Perfect.

    Men are dumb, women are insane. If men just make peace with the fact that women are insane, we can all live much happier lives.

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