Internet Personality Types

-By Caleb Jones

Over the last eight years, I have read and commented on many blogs and forums. I have also run several blogs as well as a forum that I co-managed with some other talented guys. Today I have three blogs (this one, a business blog, and a personal blog) two of which are real money makers.

If you start a blog (or forum), then over time, as your site gets more traffic, you will start to see the appearance of several predictable types of commenters. I’m going to run you through all these different commenter types, and what to do with them when you encounter them in order to ensure maximum efficiency and rational discourse at your blog or site.

My recommendations on what to do with these types of people are, of course, my own opinion, and opinions may differ. For example, if you wanted to start a blog in order to really piss people off and stir up a lot of drama, you may disagree with some of my recommendations. That’s fine; everyone has their own goals when they start a blog. I’m just giving you this information as I see it.

I will list the personality types going from the worst to the best. Here we go:

Drive-By Trolls – These are people who stumble across your blog, really don’t know what it is beyond its title, read a few sentences, get pissed, leave a comment insulting you with no other content, then leave and never come back. They aren’t interested in reading your stuff or making any actual points.

What to do with them: Delete their comments and move on.

Psychos – These are the paranoid, psychotic internet crazies whose comments would be very funny and interesting if they didn’t derail conversations so often. These guys will always derail any conversation on any topic into a hysterical rant about chemtrails, death camps, jews, nuclear war, gay people, bankers, guns, Hitler, or any other topic they’re hopelessly addicted to.

Vast experience in this area has shown me that 99% of the time, these people are current or former drug addicts or alcoholics, or people who suffer from aspergers or some extreme version of ADHD and are currently off their meds. They’re pathetic, though often entertaining.

What to do with them: Block/ban them, delete their comments if they ever get through your filter, and move on. However, save their hilarious comments and show your friends for a good laugh. Some of their stuff is really funny.

Haters – These are people who have permanently decided they don’t like you for whatever reason. It’s usually because of a position you hold or because of your communication style. Once these folks make this decision, they automatically hate almost everything you say. Like the drive-by trolls, haters have no interest in actually having a conversation or making any actual, rational points. They’re only interested in launching personal attacks, and their two favorite words are “liar” and “narcissist.” They will go out of their way to try to convince everyone that everything you say is a lie.

One of the most interesting things about haters is that they don’t just hate you. Haters always hate lots of people. They like to hate. It turns them on. This is why Amazon authors know that when you click on someone who gives a one-star review to a book, and look at their other reviews, they one-star just about everything else they’ve reviewed. That’s how haters work. They hate everyone, again using the words “liar” and/or “narcissist” to describe everybody.

You will always have haters, even if your topic isn’t controversial. It’s part of internet life. I know a sweet little old lady who has a blog on gardening. Gardening! And she has haters! Per the hater playbook, they call her a lair and a narcissist. You could start a blog called The Sky Is Blue, and just talk about that, and if you got enough traffic, you’d have haters. Accept in advance that about 2% of your audience will be haters no matter what you say, so don’t worry about it. Outcome independence. Haters also make you money because of the exposure, SEO, and links they provide you.

What to do with them: Block/ban them, delete their comments if they ever get through your filter, and move on. Do not attempt to argue with them. They’re not there to actually debate points, even if they pretend to (and often they try). They’re there to be mad, insult you, and/or dodge your points by attacking you (“You hate women!”) or your communication style (“Just because you bold your sentences doesn’t make you right, Blackdragon.”). You’re wasting your time by discussing anything with them; just chuck them and move on.

Nitpickers – Nitpickers are interesting. They actually like your stuff and often contribute good information on their own. Sometimes they make some great points. They aren’t trolls or haters by any means.

The problem is that these dudes are so anal they have calculators shoved up their asses. They honestly like your stuff, but they read everything you write with narrowed, suspicious eyes. It’s almost like they believe that you’re constantly trying to lie to them, and it’s their job to catch you. Any time you make a claim, they’ll take two hours out of their day to re-read a bunch of your past posts to make sure you’re consistent. Any time you state a number, they’ll whip out a calculator and double-check your math. Any time you discuss any dates or facts, they’ll whip up Wikipedia and make sure you’re not trying to “lie” to them.

These are guys who read a five-page blog post, love it and agree with its main points, but then see one sentence they don’t like, then their heads explode. They’ll post long, angry comments about it even if it’s not even relevant to the point of the article.

Nitpickers are masters at using too much logic to the point of stupidity. Once, when I said my mom had five kids between 1972 and 1979, a nitpicker called me a liar by saying that it was impossible, and that my mom would have been pregnant through the entire 70s. Well, that was exactly what happened and she was. Another time a nitpicker called me a liar when I said I had a high sex drive. His logic? I was lying because I was overweight, and overweight guys must have low testosterone, and guys with low testosterone must have low sex drives, therefore I couldn’t have a high sex drive and was “lying” and “bragging” about it.

I could give many examples of nitpickers throughout the years but I think you get the point.

What to do with them: Engage them in rational conversation as long as they’re staying on topic. If they keep going crazy with the nitpicks, especially the inaccurate or off-topic ones, politely but strongly tell them to knock it off, either via a public comment or private email. They usually get the point and calm down, seething behind their calculators.

Jekylls (as in Jekyll and Hyde) – This is another interesting category. Jekylls are usually forum-dwellers, but you’ll occasionally see them on blogs too. These guys are extremely intelligent, knowledgeable, and articulate. They have good information and advice to share, and are valuable guys to have on your site.

The problem is if you disagree with them in any strong way, their heads explode and they suddenly transform into the Hulk and go insane. They start making bizarre, deranged, attack-statements that make absolutely no sense. If you call them out on these statements, they ignore the call-out and just keep screaming their heads off. It’s almost as if they become a completely different person, one far more dumb and crazy. Once they calm down, they’re cool, calm, articulate guys again. Jekyll and Hyde. I’ve run into a large number of these guys over the years in the PUA world and it is really fascinating to watch.

What to do with them: When they’re happy and making good points, let them, agree with them, and encourage them. When they go into insane-mode, clearly and rationally call them out on their insane statements. They’ll probably ignore you and keep screaming, but at least you’re demonstrating to all the readers that they’re all bark and no bite (or should I say, no point). If they keep screaming, give them a warning to calm down, then ban them if needed.

Happy Dissenters – These are people who regularly read your content and enjoy it, but they completely disagree with most of what you say. Why do they keep reading then? It depends. Perhaps they like to hear opposing arguments, or perhaps they find you entertaining or interesting. They will sometimes make comments disagreeing with you, but do so in a very supportive and polite way. They will also make it clear that they don’t want to argue with you, but simply enjoy reading your opposing viewpoints.

What to do with them: Engage them like adults and enjoy them. Often they’re fun.

Defensive Newbies – These are guys new to your blog and/or the topic of your blog who make arguments that you have clearly addressed in very obvious ways many times before. An easy example would be a person at this blog making a comment that lifetime monogamy works great as long as you find the right girl. They’re obviously new to the blog and the topic, they have not read the stats and facts in this area, and they have more reading to do.

What to do with them: Be nice and polite, no matter how ignorant they may sound at first. It’s not their fault. Keep a set of handy links nearby to quickly post whenever you get a defensive newbie comment. Usually, they’ll go to those links, read, and learn. Other readers will also make use of those links for a good review session.

Half-Fans – These are regular readers who strongly support / agree with you in one core area, but disagree with you on all the others. Whenever you talk about their area of interest, they’re your biggest supporters. Whenever you give an opinion on any other topic, they grumble and complain. They tend to come from other similar blogs in more close agreement with their worldview, but still agree with you just enough to keep reading your stuff. An example from this blog would be readers who come from the more angry manosphere blogs.

What to do with them: Be cool with them. Enjoy it when they agree with you, but when they grumble, and they will, let them say their peace. You won’t be changing their minds, so let them vent when they need to (as long as they stay within the rules of your blog and don’t derail conversations).

Regular Fans – This will be the vast majority of your regular readers. They love to read your stuff and agree with most of what you have to say. However, they don’t agree with all of what you say, and will occasionally disagree with you in a rational and engaging way. They often have great points, and will often help other commenters. They are fantastic contributors and make your blog a better place.

What to do with them: Be cool and supportive. These are your buddies. Support them when you agree, debate them when you don’t, all in the spirit of collaboration and education, not just for the both of you but for the readers as well.

Hardcore Fans – These guys are just like the regular fans, except that they also think what you have to say is extremely important and should be strongly promoted and propagated all over the internet. They will recommend your blog and your products to others, link to you often, make positive web sites about you, and work very hard to get the word out. Hardcore fans will only be a small percentage of your readership, but they’re extremely important and will create a much bigger, positive impact than any other category of commenter.

What to do with them: Support them, give them whatever they ask for (within reason of course), always answer all of their questions, reciprocate their efforts, then get out of their way and let them do their thing.

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31 Comments
  • jrm
    Posted at 06:09 am, 18th June 2015

    I signed up to learn about women and issues affecting men….not blogging BD.

  • Diggy
    Posted at 06:29 am, 18th June 2015

    Hahaha ^^^ Drive-By Troll, Nitpicker, or is he a Defensive Newbie??

  • Caleb Jones
    Posted at 09:32 am, 18th June 2015

    He’s not a troll at all, he’s a nitpicker or half-fan. He clearly likes the blog and reads it, but I’ve made a post he doesn’t like so now he’s upset enough to complain about it. It’s a good thing he wasn’t around when I did movie reviews on this blog. 🙂

    jrm, I’m allowed to deviate from the formula a little bit occasionally. Keeps things interesting.

  • POB
    Posted at 09:53 am, 18th June 2015

    One thing I really have a hard time to understand is why so much PUAs go bananas once you disagree with them.

    Don’t they get that “not agreeing to everything” is a must to learn good useful stuff and improve your own points of view?

  • jrm
    Posted at 01:09 pm, 18th June 2015

    @BD – No, I’m actually a very loyal fan. I, in fact, won your online dating profile contest last year. I simply voiced my opinion and as a “hard core fan” as described above (someone who recommends your blog to others and even paid for a subscription at one time when I was a “newbie”) I would think you would put your foot in your mouth about me “complaining”. You should instead, take my comment as constructive criticism for the future. I’m just as happy to tell others “yea, BD started posting boring, irrelevant content on his blog, go elsewhere”.

  • Caleb Jones
    Posted at 01:31 pm, 18th June 2015

    One thing I really have a hard time to understand is why so much PUAs go bananas once you disagree with them.

    Don’t they get that “not agreeing to everything” is a must to learn good useful stuff and improve your own points of view?

    It’s mostly about ego, not rational thinking.

    You should instead, take my comment as constructive criticism for the future. I’m just as happy to tell others “yea, BD started posting boring, irrelevant content on his blog, go elsewhere”.

    I’ve received that particular criticism before, and heeded it, which is why I broke off all the irrelevant stuff 2 years ago and put them into other blogs. Clearly I listen to my audience.

    But if you’re saying I should NEVER, EVER post ANYTHING not 100% related to the core content, then thank you for your constructive criticism, but I won’t be doing that. Many manosphere bloggers, who have much bigger readerships than I do, sometimes post stuff like recipes(!) on their blogs, and they do just fine. If it works for them, it’s probably okay for me too.

    Plus, this post is not quite as irrelevant to my core points as you might think…

  • Steven
    Posted at 01:42 pm, 18th June 2015

    I think there’s a combination of people in your readership BD. I may be a “regular fan” since I understand the value of your advice. You’re able to back up your opinions with the facts. I apply what I learn here, and from your books that I’ve read, to benefit my own life.

    According to your definition though, I may also be a bit of a “psycho” as well. Since some of those topics you listed are definitely interesting to me. I could care less if that makes me “pathetic” or “crazy” to you, or anyone else.

    However, I do think people need to understand that there are certain websites that are targeted to certain people, for certain things. I come to this blog specifically for lifestyle advice.

    If I want to read the about the Illuminati/New World Order conspiracy, chemtrails, bankers, or the current  Bilderberg conference in Austria. I’ll go to Infowars or David Icke’s site.

    If I go to those type of sites, I want to be there for my interest in those topics, and not lifestyle type of advice.

  • jrm
    Posted at 01:48 pm, 18th June 2015

    @BD – Just because other manosphere bloggers post non relevant content doesn’t mean you should. In my personal opinion, most other manosphere bloggers have terrible content, written by guys who don’t have their act together, focus more on the lame PUA tactics, or don’t live a very free, Alpha male lifestyle themselves. Virtually every one on your posts hits the nail on the head and has information I can incorporate into my life. I would hate to see it end up like the other blogs, I really would.

  • Caleb Jones
    Posted at 02:02 pm, 18th June 2015

    According to your definition though, I may also be a bit of a “psycho” as well. Since some of those topics you listed are definitely interesting to me. I could care less if that makes me “pathetic” or “crazy” to you, or anyone else.

    Some of those topics interest me as well, greatly. But when I’m discussing dating or relationships I don’t suddenly start talking about them because I can’t control myself. A psycho is not someone interested in those topics; he’s a guy who can’t stop talking about them regardless of the core topic at hand. Big difference.

    You’re not a psycho.

    I would hate to see it end up like the other blogs, I really would.

    It won’t. Since splitting out my blogs around 2 years ago I’ve written perhaps 150 articles articles here, week in, week out, without breaks, 100% on-topic . This is just one out of those 150. And again, I don’t think it’s as off-topic to the Alpha Male 2.0 lifestyle as you think. Even if you think it is, one article out of 150 is no cause for alarm. (Thus my calling you a nitpicker.) So relax.

    If I start regularly making posts here about printer repair or architecture, you have every right to call me out on it. But that won’t happen.

  • Al
    Posted at 07:10 pm, 18th June 2015

    And then of course you have those who don’t actually have anything useful to add because the subject is pretty self explanatory! 😉

    Part of being Alpha 2.0 is having a location independent income, no?

    So trying to educate people on what to expect when they start their own blog is all part of the package I would think.

    Surely also, an intentionally, potentially provocative subject like this makes us take a look at ourselves. And sometimes what we see in the mirror ain’t pretty. 😀 So it’s all good educational stuff.

  • Caleb Jones
    Posted at 09:16 pm, 18th June 2015

    Part of being Alpha 2.0 is having a location independent income, no?

    So trying to educate people on what to expect when they start their own blog is all part of the package I would think.

    Yep.

    Surely also, an intentionally, potentially provocative subject like this makes us take a look at ourselves. And sometimes what we see in the mirror ain’t pretty. So it’s all good educational stuff.

    I actually expected a lot more backlash when I posted this. I’m pleasantly surprised there isn’t more.

  • Al
    Posted at 09:59 pm, 18th June 2015

    I actually expected a lot more backlash when I posted this. I’m pleasantly surprised there isn’t more.

    They’ll be along. 🙂

    As I re-read your post, it dawned on me just how easily these types of internet personality could be different types of women and how they will treat you and what you should do about it. 😀

    Do I get the prize for reading between the lines on this one? 🙂

  • Sachmo
    Posted at 11:26 pm, 18th June 2015

    @jrm

    You may be a hardcore fan, but definitely also a nitpicker.  : )

  • themaster
    Posted at 08:03 am, 19th June 2015

    I am definitely a regular fan, purchased the Unchained Man, fantastic general book on the various aspects of living the lifestyle of an Independent life as a modern.

    My one disagreement with your belief / assertion that all females or the majority (greater than 80%) become naturally bored with sex with their partner and desire a new partner due to their biological wiring. I disagree if you are an Alpha male that grows and develops himself daily I.e constantly reinvents yourself then your partners be it one or several can never get bored mentally or physically.

    My assertion is if you fully satisfy a woman as a man (in all aspects, sex being one) she will have no desire to cheat or be bored of sex or any other desire she wants or needs from a man.

  • Caleb Jones
    Posted at 10:01 am, 19th June 2015

    As I re-read your post, it dawned on me just how easily these types of internet personality could be different types of women and how they will treat you and what you should do about it. 
    Do I get the prize for reading between the lines on this one? 

    Not exactly, but not a bad guess.

    My one disagreement with your belief / assertion that all females or the majority (greater than 80%) become naturally bored with sex with their partner and desire a new partner due to their biological wiring.

    Okay, but then you disagree with the science, biology, history, and stats. It’s not just me saying this stuff; I’m reporting other sources.

    I disagree if you are an Alpha male that grows and develops himself daily I.e constantly reinvents yourself then your partners be it one or several can never get bored mentally or physically.

    I don’t believe that. ALL RELATIONSHIPS ARE TEMPORARY, even if you’re the “perfect” Alpha.

    My assertion is if you fully satisfy a woman as a man (in all aspects, sex being one) she will have no desire to cheat or be bored of sex or any other desire she wants or needs from a man.

    For a while, yes. Definitely a few years. But for 45 years straight? Nope.

  • Kryptokate
    Posted at 02:32 pm, 19th June 2015

    @ “themaster”  There is no way to “fully satisfy” a woman over the long term because it is the fundamental nature of humans to always be curious about trying new, different, better, bigger, smaller, faster, slower, whatever things. Including people. If humans were designed to be satisfied, there wouldn’t be a new model smartphone every year and the grocery store wouldn’t have 120 varieties of cereal and 200 different kinds of drinks. The reason we’re so far advanced beyond other animals is precisely because we’re never satisfied for long, and always interested to see what’s around the next corner.

    The fact is that people are uncomfortable with what BD presents because he’s explaining how to live in a society of sexual abundance, and we all have outmoded brains that are designed for scarcity. For thousands of years we lived in small bands where every woman in the band was pregnant or lactating her entire reproductive life and you might meet a new, unrelated woman who wasn’t yet taken or pregnant maybe a few times in your entire life. So no wonder men are programmed to try to lock down a woman once they find one to have sex with…that would’ve been a serious rarity for most of history. But today you flip through more available, unrelated, unpregnant, untaken women on Tinder in a single day than your ancestors would have laid eyes on their entire lives….and the scarcity mentality is no longer relevant or useful.

    Just like the fact that you walk into a grocery store now and see more diversity and quantity of food before you than your ancestors would’ve ever seen cumulatively in their entire lives. And people who follow their outdated scarcity programming and eat as if they might starve to death face a bad outcome, which is obesity. Adults who follow their outdated scarcity programming with respect to sexual partners face a similar bad outcome, as BD has outlined. The analogy of monogamy to eating the same meal every day is old and cliched, but it’s now more applicable than ever, when people truly have access to an almost unlimited number of options for short-term partners.

    Things have changed *drastically* in just the past 2 years or so since Tinder and smart phone dating apps have become mainstream. Literally no one I know, male or female, who is single now is capable of maintaining a relationship for more than a few months. Didn’t used to be that way but it’s a natural reaction to the abundance of options. It makes people uncomfortable and nervous but that’s the way it is and the way it will be. Adaptable, future-oriented, urban people will come around to BD’s way of thinking. And traditional people will stay “monogamous” and just be huge hypocrites who cheat/jerk off to porn/use prostitutes/covet others constantly while they get fatter and fatter.

    A pretty funny illustration of this is to look at the allegedly horrible, forward-thinking, downfall-of-civilization people on Tinder and then look at the traditional monogamist types on Farmersonly.com. Comedy gold.

  • Jack Outside the Box
    Posted at 03:26 pm, 19th June 2015

    My assertion is if you fully satisfy a woman as a man (in all aspects, sex being one) she will have no desire to cheat or be bored of sex or any other desire she wants or needs from a man.

    Ah Disney! You’re funny man. Let me guess, you have oneitis right now and it’s making you think you’re Superman!

    @Kryptokate: I think your posts should be even longer! Jesus Christ!

  • Al
    Posted at 03:54 pm, 19th June 2015

    @ themaster

    My assertion is if you fully satisfy a woman as a man (in all aspects, sex being one) she will have no desire to cheat or be bored of sex or any other desire she wants or needs from a man.

    I’m not sure if you are a Disney Mental or a troll! 🙂

    My favorite lady and I have amazing sex together. There is just a connection that neither of us has with other partners. It’s really mind blowing. She ALWAYS cums at least twice, sometimes has multiples.

    She has had at least 2 new phones this year and is always “trying new things”. Good luck to her. And one day, I’ll be out of the picture. I know it’s coming so I am prepared for it.

  • Al
    Posted at 04:01 pm, 19th June 2015

    And so, it has happened. 😀 A post about internet personality types has derailed into the conversation that the owner of this blog wanted to happen. And knew would happen.

  • Duke
    Posted at 04:07 pm, 19th June 2015

    Interesting observation Krypto Kate. People strive for scarcity because it promotes value; just think of the diamond industry. Something that is pretty much worthless is treasured and admired immensely. But that has been changing as you said. It’s temporary land, people get bored with the same house, same city, same job, and same partner. Knowing this, they still romanticize and pretend they want to plan out their whole lives, when they know deep down it’s really stupid if you really think about it.

  • Kryptokate
    Posted at 05:06 pm, 19th June 2015

    @ Jack  Ha, I know, I know, brevity is not my strong suit and the Twitter thing never sunk in with me. You can see why short texts are a no-go with me. 😉

    @ Duke  Very true. I have never been one to place sentimental value on things just because they’re rare or hard to get. The whole idea of paying a bunch of $$ for diamonds or other functionally useless things solely because they’re scarce has always struck me as profoundly stupid. Even back in the early 2000s when I was getting married I insisted on no engagement ring and $10 wedding rings ordered online. Then again, I’m divorced, so what do I know. In any event, adopting a post-scarcity mentality is probably easier for me because it’s never been natural for me to value things merely because they’re difficult to acquire in the first place.

    Of course, this is also why pretending that one is very difficult to acquire by playing hard to get is so effective…bc of the false value-inflation most people will attach to thinking they got something no one else could.

    @ AI  Smart man. I just (unexpectedly) had some of the most singularly amazing, hot, make-me-walk-around-in-an-illiterate-daze-and-soak-myself-with-the-memory-all-week sex last weekend with a new guy and look forward to doing it again tonight. But do I think I’ll still be sleeping with him in 5 or even 2 years, other than maybe on a very random basis? No.

  • Al
    Posted at 05:22 pm, 19th June 2015

    @Kate.

    Marry me? 😀

  • themaster
    Posted at 08:06 pm, 19th June 2015

    KryptoKate – An Alpha male knows how to fuck but not everyone that can fuck is an Alpha male.

    Have you been in a relationship with an Alpha male? If so what do you believe made him an Alpha male and at what point did your supposed Biological wiring of boredom kick in with him?

     

     

  • Kryptokate
    Posted at 03:24 pm, 20th June 2015

    @ the master. Yes, just once. It was far and away the most unpleasant, melodramatic, miserable relationship of my life, but admittedly I never lost attraction for him over several years and he is the only ex I still fantasize about sexually.

    He was alpha because he was simply physically and mentally tougher than anyone I’ve ever met. Everyone was universally intimidated by and supplicant to him everywhere he went…I have never seen men behave in such a fawning, deferential, ass-kissing manner to anyone ever. Hard to describe but him walking into a room of other men/women was like a doberman walking into a room of chihuahuas. Part of that was his sheer size and physical prowess, but also it was because he was not raised in the U.S. but in a warrior culture characterized by a lot of male/male violence, extreme emphasis on toughness (i.e. sending 8 year old boys out into the woods by themselves with a weapon and telling them not to come back until they’d killed a certain dangerous animal — no joke), and just generally taking no shit from anyone, ever, most especially women. He is the reason I became interested in manosphere/red pill topics, because until him I had never met anyone that inspired deep biological sexual arousal *even though I did not like him at all and hated spending time without him outside of the bedroom.* Nevertheless, my ovaries seemed to sense his genetic superiority and demanded I mate with him, despite how much I didn’t like him or want to be with him.

    He was BD’s typical Alpha 1.0. He was no fun, he was not enjoyable to socialize with, he was a huge pain in the ass and extremely controlling and constantly hassling me about how I should behave, and our whole relationship was characterized by a non-stop power struggle, screaming and fighting and door-slamming and breaking things, then make-up sex, then back to constant fighting. I broke up with him about 10 times and would go back to him for sex and the cycle would continue til I finally ended it for good.

    That’s what most of the manosphere misses that BD gets…yes, traditional alphas arouse women physically. But they’re also miserable to be with and they have a very hard time maintaining relationships unless a woman is just too terrorized or optionless to leave. This dude never kept a woman (which he wanted to), despite the fact that women were creaming their panties for him everywhere he went. Every time I broke up with him I felt joy and relief. Also, he didn’t have a lot of fun in his life…and as his physical prowess declines with age he is going to have a really rough go.

    So, if you want to keep a woman attracted for the longest, Alpha 1.0 is probably the way to go, though I doubt it can be faked and true Alphas are extremely rare. Also, I doubt the attraction is permanent…I still think it would’ve died off after maybe a decade or two. In any event, it’s not worth constant drama and adrenaline and misery just to keep your sex life hot.  If you want to be happiest, Alpha 2.0 is vastly superior model. I’d say on average it’s about like this:

    Beta –> length of time til sexual attraction dies = 1-4 months, joy and happiness = 5 (minimally contented, no real fun)

    Alpha 1.0 –> length of time til sexual attraction dies = 10-15 years, joy and happiness = 2 (only brief spikes, never consistent enjoyment)

    Alpha 2.0 –> length of time til sexual attraction dies = 3-4 years, happiness = 9 (consistently happy with spikes of tons of fun and joy)

  • themaster
    Posted at 08:41 am, 21st June 2015

    Kryptokate,

    That’s the power of an Alpha Male. You met a man that fully developed his Warrior and King face though his other 2 faces weren’t fully developed since he didn’t know how to run his relationship with you and express his passionate side. If he had he would have been able to have you in his harem for years and you would have been as wet for him 7 years from now as when you first met him.

    Your issue is you are in the majority of women that refuse to submit due to social programming. If you did you will be 100% happy. It is what your biological wiring seeks but you override it because you’ve been programmed submitting to him would be slavery, against your best interest, etc.

    That’s the point I was trying to make. An Alpha male that gets married should only do so with a woman that fully submits to him. And she does she cannot imagine fucking anyone else, she would be revulsed by the thought because she is with the best.

    Your and women’s biological wiring kicks in and loses attraction not after a certain period in time but when she realizes she is not with a top tier man, primarily due to his actions. Beta males hide their true nature and it takes varying amounts of time before a woman realizes the male is a fraud.

    And lastly the Alpha presence is mental. There are 5 foot men that have such a presence once they start speaking and the way they carry themselves because internally they believe they are the shit. And there are 6’8″ men that think they aren’t shit and carry themselves accordingly. Size has nothing to do with it as women are wired to respond to a man’s mental/social presence not physical.

     

     

  • Caleb Jones
    Posted at 01:05 pm, 21st June 2015

    An Alpha male that gets married should only do so with a woman that fully submits to him.

    An Alpha Male should not get married at all, unless he doesn’t mind drama and/or doesn’t mind strong bouts of unhappiness, like when he eventually gets divorced or caught cheating.

    You’re right in that women’s SP make them less happy in relationships. But a woman who fully submits to an Alpha will still eventually either get bored, unhappy, non-sexual, or divorced. It might take 10 or 15 years, but it will still eventually happen.

  • POB
    Posted at 05:41 pm, 21st June 2015

    @Krypto

    yes, traditional alphas arouse women physically. But they’re also miserable to be with and they have a very hard time maintaining relationships unless a woman is just too terrorized or optionless to leave. This dude never kept a woman (which he wanted to), despite the fact that women were creaming their panties for him everywhere he went.

    https://youtu.be/xnOLhXmhkyA?t=3m44s

    This scene pretty much describes why your “hulk” (and most Alpha 1.0s) behave that way and create drama.

    “You have nothing, nothing to threaten me with…nothing to do with all your strength.”

    Translation: zero control.

    Alpha 2.0s don’t care about control. They care about happiness.

  • themaster
    Posted at 12:06 pm, 25th June 2015

    An Alpha Male should not get married at all, unless he doesn’t mind drama and/or doesn’t mind strong bouts of unhappiness, like when he eventually gets divorced or caught cheating.

    You’re right in that women’s SP make them less happy in relationships. But a woman who fully submits to an Alpha will still eventually either get bored, unhappy, non-sexual, or divorced. It might take 10 or 15 years, but it will still eventually happen.

    How can she get bored with an elite man? Her biological wiring seeks a top man and once she finds him wants to have as many of his kids as possible. So what biological mechanism will make her get bored? The studies you cite relate to women in relationships with beta men, alphas are few and far between and rarely marry so of course they won’t be represented by alpha males.

    And funnily enough the point I mentioned to Kryptokate’s issue with her Alpha lover being she refused to  fully submit to her Alpha lover is mentioned in your next article lol. Would I be wrong in concluding that this discussion having some provocation for that article 😉

     

  • Caleb Jones
    Posted at 12:25 pm, 25th June 2015

    How can she get bored with an elite man? Her biological wiring seeks a top man and once she finds him wants to have as many of his kids as possible. So what biological mechanism will make her get bored?

    If you really don’t know the answer to that question, you really need to do some more reading at this blog an my book. (And if you have already read all of those things, you really should go back and re-read them.)

    She is biologically hard-wired from caveman times to get sexually bored with a male full-time live-in partner beyond 3 years or so. Alpha or beta doesn’t matter, other than that the Alpha will maintain attraction a few years longer than the beta.

    The studies you cite relate to women in relationships with beta men, alphas are few and far between and rarely marry so of course they won’t be represented by alpha males.

    Absolutely wrong. Yeah, you really need to do some more reading. As I’ve shown a hundred times, the vast majority of Alpha Male 1.0s do get married. This represents about 25% of men, and yeah, women are getting bored with those men too if they are A) cohabiting and B) promised monogamous. (Again, it just takes them a little longer.)

    Over the years, I’ve had many Alpha Male 1.0s tell me that if they’re just “Alpha” they can make long-term monogamy work. These guys always suffer the exact same problems as betas, if not worse, and get divorced / break up. The only difference, again, is that it takes a little longer.

    If you want to think that your Alpha technique can override 200,000 of biological evolution, then great, go right ahead, then I’ll nod my head when you get divorced in about 7 or 8 years.

    And funnily enough the point I mentioned to Kryptokate’s issue with her Alpha lover being she refused to  fully submit to her Alpha lover is mentioned in your next article lol. Would I be wrong in concluding that this discussion having some provocation for that article

    Haha, good point but no. My articles are written and the posting order is established two weeks (or so) in advance.

  • Crimson
    Posted at 08:49 pm, 8th June 2016

    First time commenting on this blog ever since I started reading half a year ago.

    The moment I’ve read some of your most popular articles, I became depressed a bit but thought “So that’s why…” and then the rest is history. I even bought your Alpha Male 2.0 book and nodded my head most of the time while reading.

    I guess you could say I’m a hardcore fan from the start. Thank you very much for such eye-opening writings.

  • MalkeyMonkey
    Posted at 09:09 pm, 13th November 2018

    AAAAALL MY LIFE I’VE BEEN A NITPICKER xD

    I criticize the work of people I like way more minutely than any hater could ever hope to. In fairness, I suspect it’s given me a razor-sharp control in my own writing/dealings with people, but to each his own.

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